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interview with Pinkpunkies' Lil
from Buenos Aires, Argentina
by Elke Zobl
on the web and was curious about the group. I wrote to Lil from the PiNkPuNkies
CoRpoRaTion to find out more about the scene in Argentina.
Read here what she has to say!
Can you tell me first of all a little bit about yourself? How old are you,
where are you originally from and where do you reside now?
Well, my name is Lil, but most of my friends know me as Virginia which is
my second name. I'm 21 years-old, I study Biochemistry in the University
of Buenos Aires. I live in the suburbs of Buenos Aires, in a small flat
with my parents, I'm a low class girl fighting for what I believe is right.
I grew up with punk music, now I'm more open minded than a few years ago,
so I started listening Oi! music, Crust, and many other styles.
What do you do besides your website?
I'm a student, I'm looking for a job, but nowadays my country is in a
critical situation, and the crisis leaves my generation out of the system.
We are in a constant struggle to get a job, to live better, but i'm hopeful
and I'll keep on fighting against this corrupted system. I also organize
concerts to receive contributions and give them to poor people.
For how long have you been
running your site now?
Uhmm almost 2 years.
I renovate it constantly.
you the only editor or is there a team?
Yeah, it's just me, the other girls just make me suggestions and give
me opinions about the site. Sometimes they give me material that they
consider could be useful.
What made you decide to start this project?
The first time I published my site it was totally apolitical and it was
just for fun. There were just pics of me and the other girls, a few stories
and a lot of stupid stuff. Then, the website started to have an unexpected
repercussion which surprised me a lot. A lot of girls and boys from all
ages started to visit the site, some good opinions, some bad opinions...
anyway, I decided to make a good use of that repercussion, and I wrote
some articles and put some interesting information, so that the visitors
could take the website more seriously. I made it now all about Riotgrrls,
music, pics, opinions etc.How did you come up with the idea
and the name?
The true story its quite ashaming. I was with one of the girls having
a soda, we had a notebook and we were making drawings... then a punk girl
entered the place to go to the bathroom, she went up the stairs and went
into the bathroom. We kept on drawing and talking, about half an hour
later we notices that the girls hadn't came out of the bathrrom yet! We
thought that something wrong could had hapenned, then just 10 minutes
later the girl came out, she went down the stairs almost running. We were
really surprised about the whole situation and we started laughing, then
my friend said "ohh she's goin to fall down the stairs! we're gonna
see her underwear!", we kept on laughing really loud, and then again
she said "maybe she has a PINK underwear!". Then we said "she
is a PINK PUNK", so.. that's the story about the name of the website,
it's really stupid I know, but it's true! I started bulding the site under
that name.What topics are most often discussed
in your site?
A lot of guys aways sign our guestbook insulting us and criticisin our
punk and feminist attitude, so we always reply those insults with an explanation
about what we do and what we believe in. We always focus on the equality
between men and women, we have the same rights and obligations. You can
also find information about our favourite bands, and a lot of people suggests
us many bands too. I also put a long and interesting article about "Feminism
and Anarchism" and a forum of "Freedom of Thinking".
What do you hope to accomplish
by establishing your site?
I want to make all the young girls who are just starting in this punk
world take consciense about what a girl can do. I'd like to trasmit a
lot of messages, but the most important is "Make people respect you
and respect yourself, you are a girl, not a bitch". I also want to
abolish sexism, I mean, I'm a girl, I decided to expose my ideas and have
a website? is that wrong? I dont think so, well... believe or not it bothers
a lot of people, why? I have no idea, I think it's envy.
does site making (and reading) mean to you?
It's a pleasure, it's getting to know people from all over the world and
from my own country, i'ts to share ideas and opinions, it's to learn and
teach, it's to open my mind and help others to open their minds. It's
a very good and fun way to get information without all the bullshit that
tv or radio give.
do you love about site making?
Making it, makes me feel more creative and makes me thinkg a lot, cuz
I dont want to make it look stupid and useless.
What’s the most challenging aspect of making sites?
That you always want to be different, you want to give something that
people cannot find in any other website. And make people visit the site
frequently, to see the changes, any new pic or anything attractive.
was your first exposure to websites?
There was and special offer in a Pc magazine, in wich they gave a free
cd-rom with a 10-hour internet access. So I bought it and started exploring
did you find out about them?
Through Yahoo! I didnt know anything about internet so I used the yahoo
to guide me.
What have they come to mean to you?
Everything, just everything.
you consider grrrl zines/sites as an important part of a movement of sorts?
More than important! It's time for us to show what we think and what we
can do, we're not just disposable materials for men and society, we're
part of everything and we need to express ourselves, through websites,
zines, magazines, anything.
you think zines/sites can effect meaningful social and political change?
It could... but not many people are interesting in reading them. And we
need a huge repercussion to make a real change in society, nowadays I
see it as a far dream. But it's a good start!
What does the website community
mean to you?
We're pioneers of this cyberworld, we found a useful, cheap, and challenging
way to start a revolution.
What advice would you give others
who want to start a website?
Just be sure you know what you want others to see and learn from you.
Dont waste your time in publishing bullshit. And make it look beautiful,
make yourself your number one FAN... and it will work.
What are some of the sites you admire?
Anarchist ones, political in general. I like editors with guts! I've visited
incredible sites, with great ideas and interesting format. My favourite
ones.... not all of them are feminist but they support the Feminist cause!
Stillborn-oi, Punks Unidos, Resistencia Skinhead, Indymedia Argentina,
Girlpunk.net, Nodo50... and many many others.
you please describe a little bit the grrrl website community in your country?
Not many grrls here have a website, mmmmmmm some of my friends started
to build sites but they quit. It's a hard work, maybe the girls are not
you define yourself as a feminist?
Yessssssssss! but I dont hate men or anything like that. I think we both
men and women can be together in this social revolution against the system.
We're equals and as equals we should respect each other.
are the most pressing issues you are confronted with in daily life (as a
Sexism of course! I heard some punk guys saying "girls are all hookers!"
or maybe "shut up! you're a girl you cannot discuss about soccer!"
grrrrrrrrrrrrr those things PISS ME OFFF!!!!! Or many other prejudices like
"you're a punk girl you're surely a lesbian". There are a lot
of situations like that in any girl's daily life, but it doesn't make me
weaker, it encourages me to make more things pro-feminism!
Are you active in the feminist movement? How?
Yes, al least I try to make everybody understand the women place in society,
which it's not the kitchen guys!!! I spread information about Riotgrrls
and Skinhead girls, what we do, what er are looking for etc.
do you think about feminism today?
I'm for it. But I don't like extreme feminism, which means to hate men
or to be masculine, and think we can share thins world with men in peace
but showing them how string we can be. The feminist movement is growing
since women take part of it.
role plays the Internet for you?
Its essential for me, I use it almost all the time! It's the easier way
to get information from all kinds.
it change your ideas of making zines and doing/reading zines?
Yes, because I learn a lot from the other editors, maybe I have a wrong
idea about something and through reading I can get to the truth, or not!
But I can see different ponts of view about different topics.
you have something you want to add?
Girls, support our Riotgrrls Revolution! Believe in yourself and always
do what you feel. Let's fight against sexism! racism! and anything that
stops our Revolution!
All images are from the Pinkpunkies web site and copyright Pinkpunkies
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