The Edgy-catin' Mama:
A look at homeschooling without rose colored glasses
interview with Nina Packebush
by Elke Zobl
Edgy-catin' Mama is a feminist home/unschooling zine that looks at the
world of homeschooling WITHOUT the rose colored glasses. Edgy blows
all those myths about homeschooling off the planet. If your kids are
not little brain surgeons that read Shakespeare in their spare time
then this zine is for you. If you are feminist, single, lesbian, poor,
or in any way outside the mainstream and homeschool your children then
this is the zine for you. Contributors always needed!" (Nina)
you tell me first of all a little bit about yourself? How old are you,
where are you originally from and where do you reside now?
Let's see, I am 34. I have lived in Washington State my whole life.
Right now I live in a very small town about 45 minutes from Seattle
What do you do besides your zine?
I homeschool my 3 kids, ages 15, 12 and 4. I also write when I have
the time, garden and care for out collection of pets.
how long have you been running your zine now? How many issues did you
put out until now? Are you the only editor or is there a team?
have been doing my zine for about 9 months. My third issue is just about
to come out. I was the only editor for the first edition, but now I
have 3 volunteer editors that I can't live without.
made you decide to start this project? How did you come up with the
idea and the name?
was birthed out of a deep desperation for community. As a homeschooling
mama I was desperate for a supportive feminist homeschooling community,
which in the 9 years of homeschooling I had not found. I craved a connection
with other thinking, intelligent feminist women who had a sense of humor
and who were outside of the homeschooling mainstream.
came up with the idea after spending time on a few internet message
boards talking with other women who were in the same boat. The name
came from a rejection letter that I received on an essay I submitted
to a mainstream homeschooling magazine. The editor told me that she
liked it, but that it was a little bit "too edgy".
topics are most often discussed in your zine?
Anything and everything related to homeschooling and/or feminism.
What do you hope to accomplish by establishing yourzine?
hope to not only get to know other like minded women, but also to provide
a support network for other women that are feeling alone out there as
homeschoolers and feminists. Edgy is for all of us who aren't afraid
to admit that sometimes children are magic and sometimes they really
What does zine making (and reading) mean to you? What do you love
about zine making? What ís the most challenging aspect of making
making has become very important to me. I love getting submissions from
other women and feeling a deep connection to them, even though we have
never met. I love being able to provide a place for feminist women to
say the things that are not o.k. for them to say among mainstream homeschoolers.
I just love every part of putting the zine together from collecting
essays to the actual paste up.
The most challenging aspects of doing the zine is keeping the subscriber
list straight. My zine grew a little faster than I had anticipated and
I am a very disorganized person, so that has been frustrating at times.
It is also tough to come up with the money to print and mail every three
months and to find the time to write my essays and put the zine together.
was your first exposure to zines? How did you find out about them? What
have they come to mean to you?
The first zine I ever saw was Hipmama. After discovering that, I began
visiting the Hipmama website and message board. I found that many of
the message board participants put out zines and after ordering a few
I was hooked.
now provide me with a feeling of connection to other like minded
people, people you rarely hear from in mainstream publications.
Do you consider grrrl zines as an important part of a movement of
sorts? Do you think zines can effect meaningful social and political
Yes, I think so. To me zines are just so much more raw, real and honest
than anything you will ever find in the mainstream press that I think
they can really touch people on a deeper level.
does the zine community mean to you?
I don't really feel personally connected to a larger zine community,
but I am very thankful to know that there are other grrrl zine makers
out there. I guess Edgy would not be here if it wasn't for the larger
zine community, because I never would have had the guts to do this without
knowing there were others like me out there.
What advice would you give others who want to start a zine?
get out there and do it and don't worry about whether people will like
it or not.
What are some of the zines you admire?
I really like V is for Voice, Miranda, Random Thoughts and The Deep
Could you please describe a little bit the grrrl zine community in
I am really not that connected to the zine community so I guess Ican't
really answer that.
you define yourself as a feminist?
What are the most pressing issues you are confronted with in daily
life (as a woman/feminist)?
now, being the mom of a 12-year-old girl, I am constantly being
made aware of the gender stereotypes that she is being forced to face
as she enters her teen years and also the physical dangers that seem
to be ever present. It infuriates me when people feel free to comment
on the things she does that are not "normal for a girl her age",
things like her interest in amphibians, invertebrates and the like.
I hate seeing men and boys openly leer at her or make comments. And
I feel intense rage every time she wants to go to the woods in a nearby
park and I must arm her with a cell phone and pepper spray. That is
not right. It is not the same for boys. This is a dangerous world for
girls and women and watching my daughter grow up really slaps that reality
in my face. I think when these things are happening to you, you don't
see it as clearly, but when it is your child you see it everywhere.
you active in the feminist movement?
What do you think about feminism today? Do you seeyourself as part
of Third Wave Feminism and what does it mean to you?
Yes, I do think of myself as a third waver. To me the third wave is
not only about continuing the fight of the second wavers but also about
reclaiming girl culture and Goddess centered religions...among other
Which role plays the Internet for you? Does it change your ideas
of making zines and doing/reading zines?
The internet has played a phenomenal role in the making of Edgy. Without
the internet Edgy would not exist. I have met all of my writers, editors
and the vast majority of my subscribers through the internet. I have
found all of the zines that I subscribe to on the internet.
npackebush [AT] aol.com
Subscriptions are $8.00 per year.
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